When does a craft become art?


Latest post Mon, Oct 13 2008 9:53 PM by ZassZ. 9 replies.
  • Fri, Jun 13 2008 1:02 PM

    When does a craft become art?

    This is in response to the question "When does a craft become art?"

    You know there is the scene from the movie History of the World with the cave man.

    Art is when there is a critique. 

    And yes sometimes we, the crafters, are the biggest critiques.


  • Sun, Jun 15 2008 2:12 PM In reply to

    • MandyH
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    Re: When does a craft become art?

     It could also be said that all craft is art.

    After all, in knitting, the design is part of the process whether completed by the knitter or the designer. If it is a purchased pattern, whether in a magazine, book, pamphlet or on the internet, the design must sell itself or it would never become a completed garment/object. It must be attractive and tempting or the magazine, etc would not leave the shelf.

    Art has an attraction. We all wish to go to an exhibition to admire the artwork / sculpture, etc. To me, a Textile exhibition is just as full of "art". I consider it Art, since each piece has usually been judged worthy to be hung, especially if is an important exhibition. Those critics again.........

    I have managed to get my husband to come to some of the textile exhibitions I enjoy. He has always been very taken by the expertise shown and the quality of design. His passion is model engineering, making model aircraft and also working scale models of aero engines. I go along to a major engineering show each year. In return I am fascinated by the detail of work in the models I see. It is the textures produced in the metals which draws my eye every time.

    Again, why is it that craft is not seen as Art. Is it that people see our craft of knitting as something they could do if only they had the time? Why should that decrease it's stature? Most crafts are useful, generally having an end purpose. But then so does pottery, sculpture, especially when it is made to be handled.......... It cannot be that crafts are mainly produced by women - we have quite a number of men now knitting, quilting, etc. There are many women artists out there too..........

    Art is Craft and Craft is Art.

    Mandy:)

     

  • Tue, Jun 24 2008 9:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: When does a craft become art?

     I so agree with you Mandy.  Who's to say that the person knitting a shawl or crocheting an afghan has any less artistic creativity than the person who paints a masterpiece, takes a beautiful photo, composes a piece of music, or writes a poem?  They all are art.  I wish they all got the same amount of respect.  I put my heart into my work when I crochet, and when the piece is done, I feel like it's a part of me.  Isn't that what art is all about-expressing who you are?

     

  • Tue, Jun 24 2008 11:32 AM In reply to

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     Well said! Just Jo, I do so agree with your comments.

    Mandy:)

     

  • Wed, Jun 25 2008 1:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: When does a craft become art?

     Just Jo, add me to the list of agree'ers - is that a word?  When we express our given talent(s) it reflects a part of us and those abilities are now turned into something outwardly tangible.  No two person's fingerprints the same.  No two individual works are exactly the same.  Done at different times and can't turn out exactly the same (even tho they may look alike).  Each expresses who you are at the time.  Time  Even what your are thinking when working on a project is different each time you may do the same project, and does have some bearing on how it turns out, so you are really expressing yourself at that particular time.  No two sunsets the same, no two days the same. 

    I understand why so many of us find it so hard to part with some of our projects.  As you said, you put your HEART into it. 

    So it is as you said,  "a part of me".

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  • Mon, Jul 7 2008 1:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: When does a craft become art?

    These are great points! Working at Fiberarts magazine for the last four years, I have given this question a lot of thought (although that doesn't mean I have the answer!). I think a lot of the discussion comes down to how people view the terms "craft" and "art". Personally, I see the main difference between the two as intention. To me, craft is more execution and art expression. However, that isn't to say that the two aren't often combined. In my mind one doesn't become the other, they live in harmony.

    Liz Good * assistant editor * Fiberarts magazine

  • Mon, Jul 7 2008 3:33 PM In reply to

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    I think that our "craft"  as it is presented here is an "art".  Even the knit-alongs where everyone puts their own personality into the project.

    When I think of "craft" and "art" I think a craftperson is someone who practices their craft and an artist is someone who cares about their craft.  By "care" I mean cares how it is presented, cares how it looks, cares about how long it will last, care if it fits the intended purpose, cares that other people may be inspired by it.

    This may be off-base, but think of the electric conduits in most houses.  The reason they are hidden inside the walls are because they really are poorly layed out.  No one wants to look at them.  I have seen some electricians who make art of their craft.  When they lay out the conduit you definately want to see it.  (I'm and engineer that is why relating electric conduit and knitting seem natural to me.)

    I have seen some knitting that just satisfies the need.  Knitting art does more than just satisfy a need.


  • Wed, Jul 9 2008 3:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: When does a craft become art?

     Great analogy, Georgina!  I never would have thought of comparing knitting to electrical engineering, but it really does fit now that I think about it.  I've seen electricians who just shove their wires into a box knowing that nobody can see it later, and it always makes me appreciate the craftsman who keeps it neat.  My dad-who does some electrical work on the side-always says he likes to keep it orderly for the next person, because you never know when the outlet or circuit might need adapted in the future and it's a nightmare to try to figure out someone else's tangles.  I suppose that would be like trying to finish someone else's knitting project, lots of tangles!

     

  • Sat, Aug 9 2008 2:10 PM In reply to

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    This is a discussion many of us in the fine and performing art community have.  Why does an actor "practice their craft" while a painter or musician "suffers for their art"?  I have come to believe that art is all about the form while craft is all about the function.  A sweater can be an art and a craft - the art is in the design and color choices, the craft is in the construction and usefullness.

    There is a car commercial here in the US that talks about the artistry of the design of a car and the craftsmanship of the builders.  It seems to me that that would apply to knitting and crochet as well. 

  • Mon, Oct 13 2008 9:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: When does a craft become art?

     You perfect your craft - you put your heart into it - it becomes your art  

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